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被遗忘的男人 (英文Forgotten Man) ,可简称为男人 (英文Man) ,是 Deltarune 中每个章节都会出现的神秘角色。虽说"出现",但其从未在玩家面前展示真实面貌。

被遗忘的男人藏身之树的外观类似于纸牌王国平原森林中的红叶树。

个人档案

个性

在第一章与第二章中,男人不会说话,旁白对他的描述也十分简短而平淡。直到第三章,男人才首次正式开口说话。他性格友善,会把送给 Kris 当作礼物,希望对方能借此记住他。他认得出 Kris,知道对方已经多次把自己忘记;在第二章光世界中,还能看到他"开心地向 Kris 招手"[1]

他似乎很在意他人的看法,说话时经常停下来询问对方的观点,也特别欣赏那些有自己主见的人。

男人能够同时出现在光世界与暗世界,但仍然未知这是否代表他是光之民

从整体表现来看,男人似乎有些思维混乱,有时会自我怀疑。对话中他时常反复斟酌用词,提到过"也许有一天连自己都会忘记自己"这样的想法。

主要故事

第一章

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在森林中,男人将一个蛋交给 Kris。
此时背景音乐为 man

Starwalker 鸟所在房间与逐渐变暗的房间之间反复进出时,有极低概率(2%)会进入一个隐藏房间。反复进出时,该区域的背景音乐猩红森林就会重新开始播放。

该区域由一条通往树木的小路构成。进入后,背景音乐会变为一段简单的钢琴旋律(Man.ogg)。无论当前小队中有多少人,场景中都只会出现 Kris 一人。一旦离开该区域,则无法再次进入。

调查那棵树时,旁白会提到"他在树后面"。继续调查树后的位置,会发现那里站着一名男人,想要给 Kris 什么东西。选择接受的话会获得一个蛋。此后再调查他原本站着的位置,会发现他已经消失。

之后在光世界中,可以把这颗蛋放进 Asgore 家的冰箱里。

Chapter 2

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Kris receiving an Egg in Cyber City's Tree Room, as man plays.

If the Forgotten Man was met during Chapter 1, he appears in Hometown at the beginning of Chapter 2. When leaving the School to go to the Library, inspecting any car in the traffic points out that there is a Man in it who waves happily at Kris. Inspecting a car once more reveals nothing about the Forgotten Man.

Regardless of the party's actions in Chapter 1, the Forgotten Man can be found in Cyber City's tree room. If the Annoying Dog cutscene has already played, there is a 1/50, or 2% chance,[2] to encounter him while attempting to backtrack between the Dog Dumpster room and the yellow Annoying Dog signs. The area's theme, WELCOME TO THE CITY, resets while backtracking. This room is inaccessible on the Weird Route.

The tree room contains a low tree, with the same design as the one in Chapter 1, and the music is replaced with the piano melody again. When examining the spot behind the tree, the Forgotten Man offers another Egg to Kris. Once taken or declined, the Forgotten Man ceases to exist there, and subsequent examinations reveal that "there was not a man here." Exiting the area returns the party to where they came from. The area cannot be re-entered.

Chapter 3

The Forgotten Man can be met in a hidden area known as Mancountry, which can be accessed after completing a series of puzzles. First, during one of The Legend of Tenna puzzles in the TV World section, after completing it, the player must use HERO_AXE to throw a box to a seemingly unaccessible area behind a river. Later, in the area right before the frozen Green Room, if Zapper has not been LOST, a spotlight can be found which, when stepped into, prompts a Zapper to ask Kris if they are a cheater; if they answer "Yes", the Zapper will then ask Kris where they are "headed", and if they answer "Nowhere", they are brought to a cave-like area. This cave contains a lone console where the previously inaccessible area of the completed The Legend of Tenna puzzle can be reached. The box must then be pushed to press a button.

Solving the puzzle opens the way to another console with a Bibliox muttering next to it; on interacting with this console, its in-game avatar tasks Kris with finding their ticket (which is then revealed to have been in the inventory the entire time), which then adds the Trip Ticket to the party's Key Items. The ticket, when inspected, is said to contain "a map pointing to the left of a red X", a hint towards the method of accessing the Forgotten Man. By backtracking and entering a battle with a Ribbick, selecting the "CroakOnX" ACT (whose 'X' is now red), and holding the "left" input, the SOUL can walk off-screen to the left and enter Mancountry.

In Mancountry, Kris will again appear alone, this time in their Light World outfit; the Forgotten Man can be found in the temple north of the entrance, behind a tree similar to those in the previous Dark Worlds. He introduces himself as the man who is frequently forgotten; if Kris says that they will forget about him at any time in his dialog, he will cease to exist. However, if Kris reassures the Forgotten Man that he will not be forgotten, he will continue his story. He describes how the world used to look like the simplistic island he is found at, until society developed and multiple world-changing events occurred. He then describes that the island that he is on will also disappear soon, before asking if Kris wants to meet him again. If Kris says that they don't, then the dialogue will end. Otherwise, he will explain his schedule to Kris if they wish to meet him again:

  • On Thursday, he goes to sell the donuts.
  • On Friday, he tosses the leftovers in the dumpster.
  • On Saturday, he lets it cool on the windowsill.
  • On Sunday, he harvests the wheat.
  • Hold your breath, head to the left, and count backwards to 100.
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Kris receiving an Egg in Mancountry, as man_nes plays.

This schedule is largely a hint to the locations of each Egg in the other Chapters: "the donuts" are likely in reference to the Bake Sale positioned before the Chapter 1 Egg, "the dumpster" represents the Dog Dumpster in Chapter 2, and "the windowsill" as well as "count backwards to 100" is alluding to the 2nd Sanctuary's window room in Chapter 4, where the Egg room can be accessed through the 100th window. Furthermore, "head to the left" is also a reference to the way to access Mancountry in Chapter 3, as the SOUL must walk left during an encounter, even though that step must already have been completed in order to see this dialogue.

After this, he asks if Kris wrote all of this down, then gifts them an Egg so that they may remember him. He warns Kris that the Egg may cease to exist soon, so they should put it somewhere, after which he suggests Kris depart from the island, since it will disappear soon. He says they will meet again, as "WHETHER 11 HOURS OR 11 YEARS, DELTARUNE WILL BE WAITING." He then disappears, and Kris changes from their Light World outfit to their Dark World outfit.

Chapter 4

If the Forgotten Man was met in Chapter 3, he appears in Hometown right before entering the first Dark Sanctuary. Once it rains after Kris and Susie leave the Holiday residence, inspecting the entryway doors of QC's Diner will point out that "a customer in the back notices you. He holds up a takeout box and taps it, happily."[3]

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The normal window (left) vs. the Egg window (right).

The Forgotten Man is found around the middle of the 2nd Sanctuary, in a long room with many identical windows. Near the right side of the room, the 100th window from the left possesses an egg-like shape near the top, as opposed to the usual upside-down teardrop shape; walking into this window brings the player to a secret room, whose room transition contains the passage to the Forgotten Man. This method of access breaks several trends from the first two Chapters: the player is brought to the Forgotten Man after entering the secret room exactly 8 times, as opposed to relying on a 1/50 chance; the area's theme, The Second Sanctuary, does not play in the window room nor in the connected secret room, meaning there is no music to be restarted, and the area is accessible on the Weird Route, unlike in Chapter 2.

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The room the Forgotten Man is found in, as man_2 plays.

Rather than a room with a visible tree, the player is greeted by a similar area to the one in Chapter 3, with Kris appearing similarly out of place, though they now sport their Dark World outfit from the outset. The area resembles a hospital of sorts, with a Rudinn receptionist and a set of three doors. The two outer doors are locked, though the middle one, which features a small drawing of a tree, leads to an invisible, out-of-bounds area on the same screen. This room contains an NPC who asks if Kris is "here for Art Club", their canvas, a sink, the Forgotten Man, behind his usual tree and a second canvas which only appears after Kris interacts with the Man.

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Kris receiving the fourth Egg in the 2nd Sanctuary.

Interacting with the canvas prompts the player to draw something, at which point Kris will attempt to create a pencil sketch of "what they saw behind the tree", starting over and drawing the same shape continually due to repeated errors. Eventually, they successfully finish their sketch and paint a tree over it, leaving the canvas and picking up an Egg from a nearby easel. The Forgotten Man, the other person, and the second canvas will then disappear, and Kris can leave the area. Optionally, you can interact with the sink again to get additional dialogue describing Kris washing their hands.[4]

客串

In ISSUE 5 - Winter 2024 of the Newsletter, three random Valentine's Day cards were included in the email version of the Newsletter. Among them was a single exceedingly rare card from an unknown sender. It begins by wishing a happy new year, then asks if the recipient is enjoying "DELTA RUNE". The card talks about time, love, and forgetting things, saying that every day can be a day of love "IF YOU BELIEVE IT SO". The sender also mentions wanting to help someone, but cannot remember who.[5]

The card's closing words, which mention washing one's face and getting dressed, are later echoed by the Forgotten Man in his Chapter 3 dialogue, along with his reflections on memory and identity.[6]

其他

  • The tracks playing in the background of the hidden rooms are not present in the official Deltarune OST. Internally, they are referred to as man, man_nes and man_2.
    • man and man_nes were originally created as fan songs for Yume Nikki, titled "waltz of seccom masada" and "waltz of seccom masada (8 bit)" respectively. They were part of a collection of songs called "made up yume nikkis" that was posted to Toby Fox's Tumblr.[7]
  • The Forgotten Man may be related to spr_mysteryman, a secret character in Undertale found in a similar fashion.
    • The areas the Forgotten Man resides being "[rooms] in between" are similar to the fake hallway leading to spr_mysteryman's room that may appear if Undertale's Fun Value is set to 66.
  • In Undertale's True Lab, there is a room filled with refrigerators. Before turning on the lab ventilation, the fog in the area changes the protagonist's interactions with the refrigerators to vague assumptions. One of these interactions describes "something in the shape of a man", which may be an allusion to the Forgotten Man.
    • Another interaction describes something that "feels like a tree, ripe with delicious fruit", which could possibly allude to the tree the Forgotten Man hides behind.
  • In the Fangamer FAQ during the Spamton Sweepstakes event, when asked if Pipis are eggs, Spamton says that only he can refer to them as such, but that "A WHITE ONE, THAT'S SURELY [another man's treasure]."[8] This may be referring to the Forgotten Man and the Eggs he offers.
  • The Forgotten Man's appearance in Chapter 3 heavily references the Forgotten Man from EarthBound Beginnings/Mother, as they both have multiple questions with Yes/No responses revolving around the theme of being forgotten.
  • The Spamton Sweepstakes page https://deltarune.com/window/ is a direct hint to the Forgotten Man's location in Chapter 4, as the 18th window on this page has the same visual difference and leads to a different webpage, similarly to the in-game version.
    • Similarly, the 36th window on https://deltarune.com/windows/ leads to a webpage titled "ROOTS" depicting a tree. Its URL spells out "lost where the forest would grow", implying that "Lost where the forest would grow, the children followed the pointed tail" is the correct word order for the mixed-up sentence the Organikk NPC in the 2nd Sanctuary heard.
  • The Voice appears to believe obtaining an Egg from the Forgotten Man is an "issue", as obtaining an Egg in PlayStation versions of Deltarune bars the player from gaining the "COMPLETE WITHOUT ISSUE" trophy for the Chapter the Egg is obtained in. Due to the Voice commenting on not obtaining any trophies,[9] and that the trophy titles and descriptions are written similarly to the Voice's style of speaking, the trophies are likely created by it.
    • The trophy may instead be using the definition of "issue" used in certain legal or genealogical contexts, where "issue" refers to descendants/children. By that definition, eggs can be considered the "issue" of whatever creature laid them, and the trophy may be literally acknowledging that the player is completing a Chapter while not having obtained an Egg in that Chapter.

参考

  1. (看起来是辆车。)
    (里面还有个男人。)
    (他正开心地向你挥手。) - 进入暗世界前检查车,第二章
  2. gml_Object_obj_doorw_musfade_Alarm_2 腳本,第 26–30 行,第二章
  3. gml_Object_obj_readable_room1_Other_10, lines 1815-1824
  4. (You ran water over your hands, and dried them.)
    (Between your fingers, a faint grey crease glittered stubbornly.)
    (...You can never wash it all away.) - Narration upon interacting with the sink in the Egg room, Chapter 4
  5. Valentines #39, unknown, exceedingly rare, Archived February 14, 2024.
  6. I LIKE YOU!
    YOU MAY FORGET ME, I MAY FORGET MYSELF,
    BUT I WILL REMEMBER YOUR KINDNESS.
    NOW, THIS ISLAND WILL DISAPPEAR SOON. YOU MUST DEPART.
    IF YOU WILL IT, WE SHALL MEET AGAIN AT THAT PLACE...
    WHETHER 11 HOURS OR 11 YEARS, DELTARUNE WILL BE WAITING.
    SO TAKE YOUR TIME, WASH YOUR FACE, AND GET DRESSED! - Forgotten Man, Chapter 3
  7. made up yume nikkis - fwugradiation 的 Tumblr 貼文, 2012年04月02日
  8. EGGS!? WHAT!? LOOK!! THAT'S "MR. PIPIS" TO YOU! EGGS... ONLY [friend like me] CAN CALL "THE BOYS" THAT. A WHITE ONE, THAT'S SURELY [another man's treasure]. [Think before you] [Stink], FUNWAD!!! AND THANK YOU! - @Fangamer 的 X (原 Twitter) 貼文,2022年09月18日
  9. INTERESTING.
    YOU FAILED TO ACHIEVE ANY MARKS.
    WHAT ARE YOU?
    "[Player's Name]"
    I VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT. - Voice, no Trophies obtained on console versions, Chapter 4 end